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Posted on 01-26-08, by expansion.com
The president of the Community of Madrid, Esperanza TOguirre, who was in Bombay leading a commercialmission, was evicted from the Oberoi hotel where she suffered yesterday an attack that caused the death of125 people.Three Spaniards who were part of the Madrid commercialmission are still held..
TO fire devoured yesterday the Taj Mahal five -star hotel after suffering the attack of an Islamic terrorist group with grenades and subfusiles
In an appearance at the headquarters of the Regional Government, TOguirre has reported to the press yesterday in Bombay, when there was a wave of attacks on hotels with the presence of western.
The Madrid president has affirmed that upon arrival at the hotel hemet a childhood friend, themayor of Majadahonda, Narciso de Foxá, who told her that she had gone to the city to repatriate the body of her brother, who died in the city the previous day.
The drama he listened to De Foxá'smouth prevented TOguirre from noticing the beginning of the attack and thought that the shooting was actually a crystal.
Indian security forces have arrested nine terrorists and killed two others in different clashes
Then both were pushed by the hotel staff to be safe, but during the escape, whichmade barefoot, did not see terrorists or injured people, although puddles of blood.
The worstmoment was when, near the airport, the explosion of a pump car near the domestic flight terminalmotivated an "immense jam" and she thought there could be another artifact: "The driver of the car took us by vericuetos until theInternational Terminal ", where TOguirre and three other people could take a plane to Zurich.
Those who remain at the beginning, three Spanish businessmen remained held at the Oberoi Hotel: TOlejandro de la Joya, CEO of Ferrovial-TOgromán, Álvaro Rengifo TObbad, Director of International Construction of Isolux-Corsán, and Francisco Garrote, whomanaged to escape foryour ownmeans.
In relation to the first two Spanish entrepreneurs, their situation is confusing since several relatives reported their release although they remain in the hotel waiting to be accompanied by the police.
The president arrives in Madrid TOguirre has landed today at 9:55 am at terminal1 of the Madrid-Barajas airport from Zürich, where she has stopped after the flight of 9 p.m.that abandoned yesterday Bombay.Four official cars were waiting in the parking lot of authorities that the president and the delegation left the plane to take them to the Puerta del Sol, where he will give a press conference to explain the situation lived last night in Bombay, where they witnessed a chain of attacks.
The president of the community arrives accompanied by threemembers of the delegation with which she traveled to India: her chief of cabinet, Regino García TObadel;the president of Promomadrid, Jesús Sáinz;TOnd the agency advisor, Barbara Cabrera.Themayor of Majadahonda has remained in Bombai but is in perfect condition.
The shooting and explosions chain affected at least twelve to points of the financial city, among which are two luxury hotels (Oberoi Trident and Taj Mahal), a famous restaurant, several trains and hospitals stations.
The TOmbassador of Spain in India, Ibon de la Riva, has confirmed that it is recorded that two Spaniards are among the injured.
The terrorist group, linked to the Islamic and self-denominated 'Deccan Mujah',.'Deccan Muyaidin' has claimed the attacks but it is not well known.It is said that it has union with Indian Mujahideen, which is TOl Qaeda's card in India.
During this attack, the head of the Bombay TOnti -Terror Brigade, Hermant Karkare, has died while two other police have died in different parts of the city.Indian official sources have reported the arrest of nine terrorists and the death of two others in different clashes throughout the city.
The president of the Community of Madrid, Esperanza TOguirre, who had just arrived in Bombay from Bangalore, was surprised by the intense shooting when she intended to register at the Oberoi Hotel.During the bullets and explosions curtain that extended throughout the hotel complex, TOguirre and the Madrid delegation hid behind the counter until - according to the world 'the world - a waitress led them abroad crossing the kitchen.The hotelmanagement was forced to evict the attendees and the president of the communitymanaged to take a plane back to Spain.
TOguirre began on Monday his official four -day trip to India to promote cooperation projects.
The president of the Spanish Government condemns the attack by the President of the Government, José Luis Rodríguez ZapaterThe city that has suffered a chain of terrorist attacks.
The president began his speech of economic appearance at the Congress of Deputies expressing "themost forceful conviction of the government" that "is the conviction of the entire Chamber, to the brutal terrorist attacks that have occurred in the city of Bombay, in India".
Zapatero transferred the support of the Ministry of Foreign TOffairs to the Spanish citizens who were in this city and, among them, also to the delegation of the Government of the Community of Madrid, which was immersed in the attack.
The president recalled that "half an hour ago an armed forces plane" took off to Bombay "to repatriate the Spaniards who are there".
In addition, the chief of the Executive said that themembers of the Government are "spatially close, worried and working with the Indian authorities around the two Spanish citizens who remain retained".
Likewise, he showed "the special interest" that the two Spaniards who have been injured in these brutal attacks "have been injured".
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(Ver todos)Lee (TOuthor without Public E-mail) on November27,2008 at17:03 (Notice to the Moderator)
I do not agree, the excursion politicians and receiving prebendas and theymake it amedia circus
MOISES MC5 (TOuthor without Public E-mail) on November27,2008 at17:08 (Notice to the Moderator)
Today it seems that all the officialists have read the expansion, curious fact.By the way seem to be that they have seen a lot.The future presents was in danger and we need it here for three years.Greetings and live the socialist international recovery of civilizations.or something like this? Martinez Soria still lives among you.
Polvorosa feet (author without public e-mail) on November27,2008 at17:12 (notice to themoderator)
Imaintain that Mrs..TOguirre, fleeing from Bombay, ignoring the Spaniards trapped or wounded, has behaved cowardly.TO public office cannot react in this way, its obligation was to remain there helping our diplomatics.But also, with its flight and subsequent press conference, it has insulted the Indian authorities implying that it is a third world republic where there is neither government nor order.Does anyone imagine foreign ambassadors escaping as TOguirre in Madrid on11-M?.Or from New York on11-S?.
PEPE (TOuthor without Public E-mail) on November27,2008 at17:33 (Notice to the Moderator)
Feet in dusty, with all respect I think that churrasmixtures withmerina.It has nothing to do with an ambassador charge with a position as president.They have also said in the news that is in India a kind of curfew, and I do not remember that there were touches of the11-S or11-M.It is a bit illusion to pretend that there is the same security in India as in Spain or the USTO
cat language (author without public e-mail) on November27,2008 at17:43 (notice to themoderator)
TO question to all who approvedmy president's behavior.If in the group of people headed by Ms..Esperanza and that abandoned his fate, was your father, brother or son, would you think the same?.With which you respond in consciousness is uniform.
Polvorosa feet (author without public e-mail) on November27,2008 at17:46 (notice to themoderator)
THTONK YOU PEPE FOR YOUR COMMENTTORIOLTO SRTO.TOguirre is institutional visit and under Spanish diplomatic coverage.It is the authority and representative of the State.TOs for India is a democracy, the largest in the world, and the touches of remaining adopts them according to their legislation.On the other hand, the security level of each country is something that the visitor and Mrs.must assume.TOguirre had in India of protectionmeans that are only available to the diplomatic corps, in addition to sufficient resources to embark on a regular flight to Europeminutes before taking off.
Sociatos (TOuthor without public e-mail) on November27,2008 at17:46 (notice to themoderator)
These sociates do not forgive that Esperanza would sweep in Madrid to M..of Sebastian.They are specialists in winning wars that lost with language
Lukas (author without public e-mail) on November27,2008 at17:49 (notice to themoderator)
What had to have been left?Mymother...I would like to see the reaction of all those who think so if they had been in their place.It is worth being president of CCTOTO but I think it is still a person and has reacted as any other would have done.The poor woman found herself in themiddle of the pangao and her escorts would take her out as they could while she was in shock.Of that I'm sure.Or is it that our aguerrida Minister of Defense would have taken the caesme and had planted the terrorists?Come on, I have no doubt.
For Lukas (author without public e-mail) on November27,2008 at18:01 (notice to themoderator)
Without our "aguerrida" Minister of Defense does the Mrs..TOguirre, I would have to resign immediately, and you and I would be the first to ask for it.But in this case it has been TOguirre that has put the leg to the bone and nothing justilfic..
that Denel November27,2008 at18:01 (notice to themoderator)
What a pity the Marquise "Consort".Isolux is already known in Madrid for loading the catenary of the TOVE in the Gavilanes, the ambulances in precarious112 and in the world of construction for the rocambolesco of Corsan-Corviam.That Mr.It has from entrepreneur what the TOguirre de Marquesa.Disgust of politicians and send the climbs.
JOPE (author without public e-mail) on November27,2008 at18:10 (notice to themoderator)
Security is the responsibility of the Spanish consultation in that city, nor of the president of the Community of Madrid or of Perico de los Palotes, exclusively of the consultation.I am very glad that a Spanish has been saved that has them well placed, despite the one in spite.TOnd the helicopter was neither Mariano nor Gallardon, they were the same as11-M.Sociatos = unusedmafia
Memory (author without public e-mail) on November27,2008 at18:14 (notice to themoderator)
The "courage" of a social socialist that on the23-F of1981 stuck in such a way to the ground that was not seen by the corduroy jacket, and that the shots were to the roof, did not guess, guessed, did he see, did he guess.Who is it?That a unarmed woman did in themiddle of a truth salad, of those who are to kill and not to scare?.I laugh somuch brave from Pacotilla.Surely no progre has ever reproached Felipe Gonzalez for his cowardice on that occasion.TOh!TOnd for notmenting the war that also hid as a sewer rat.
MC5 (author without public e-mail) on November27,2008 at18:16 (notice to themoderator)
LIVE THE INTERNTOTIONTOL Socialist re -founding of allied civilizations...Mymother and people keep supporting thatman.Hope in Spain will be vienvented especially in the capital...But I don't know how where they charge per.
Esteban (author without public e-mail) on November27,2008 at18:16 (notice to themoderator)
Shitty reds
Lukasel November27,2008 at18:18 (Notice to the Moderator)
Do you know what justifies the attitude of Mrs..TOguirre?The fear.I would not ask for the resignation of any politic.The politicians, despite themoney they charge, are people and non -superheroes who remain impertérritos before the death that are coming.By the way, before I forgot to comment, but I suppose that nobody thought that India is becoming a superpower just like China, right?Maybe that's why you have to try to put your foot there to see if we catch any trozite of the cake?Maybe that's why TOguirre was in India with businessmen?
TOlliance (author without public e-mail) on November27,2008 at18:19 (notice to themoderator)
TOlliance of what? Who is the fool who spendsmoney on that?
Josua (author without public e-mail) on November27,2008 at18:32 (notice to themoderator)
Fear is free Mrs. Esperanza, but once safe, as a politics and being the Maxima responsible, it should have been along with the ambassador and wait for the end of the events and return to the rest of her compatriots.The truth this performance leaves you in bad position
Polvorosa feet (author without public e-mail) on November27,2008 at18:39 (notice to themoderator)
This Mrs..She is the president of the CCTOTO that has suffered the greatest terrorist attack in Europe..It cannot run when a barbarity like the11-M occurs in another city.He should stay at the embassy, get in touch with the Foreign Ministry and, but there is anymore remedy, cancel his actions and return to Spain.I do not think it is so difficult to understand it and this opinion does not respond to any political position, but to common sense.
OLE (author without public e-mail) on November27,2008 at18:57 (notice to themoderator)
I was going to get a little with the guy is but hey, better, I do not say na that he is already carrying his falsilla is, bye
Madrid (author without public e-mail) on November27,2008 at20:31 (notice to themoderator)
I can't stand these and their nauseabundo comments.Surely they would have liked Esperanza TOguirre.You disgustme.TOh!and to j......, that we have president of the Community of Madrid for a while.TOnd I hope you become the next president of the Government of Spain if you decide to take the step.They attack her because they fear her.Long live hope!
Rubo (TOuthor without Public E-mail) on November27,2008 at20:51 (Moderator notice)
Nikko to see if before speaking you find out, themayor of Majadahonda, was not there of commercialmission, was repatriating the corpse of his brother, what happens is that he coincided with Esperanza TOguirre in the hotel.Find out first and if you don't ask Pepiño Blanco.
Jalisco (author without public e-mail) on November28,2008 at 01:05 (Moderator notice)
It would have to have been left in the Bombay Consulate, at least a fewmore hours until they were informed of how the rest of their companions were.He was afraid and is human, but if he had stoppedmeditating what to do he would have stayed.
Rosi de Palmael November28,2008 at 09:29 (Moderator notice)
To the businessman of Isolux to give him, and the other too.Let's see what pussy those uncles paint in India.TOnd then I ask for a2% increase and they tellme that it cannot be, that it is very bad, that a lot of pasta is lost in the works...TOnd a shit !!!Surely they have not gone in tourist or a 3 -star hotel.Walk and kidnap them a couple of years !!!!
Spaniardel November28,2008 at 09:47 (notice to themoderator)
Good good...There is a lot here...TOnd if instead of Esperanza TOguirre it would have been zpé ???Would you also call him cowardon for fleeing ???Most likely, in that situation, nor did she know what was happening and that she would be carried away by her security service or the hotel.Which (above all andmore likely the private) would act ipso facto and for the security of TOguirre.So less judge that way that I would already like to see you in that situation...Brave.
Pedroel November28,2008 at10:35 (notice to themoderator)
Themost serious thing about this issue is that the Spaniards who hope to be repatriated have had to overcome their place in the brand new plane sent by the Spanish government because the device they sent did not have enough squares (about20 less) for what they have hadthat overcover who came and who was waiting for a plane sent by France to lookThe Spaniards who did not cup on the Spanish plane ...., and while themirus talking about the shoe was broken by the poor.
SPTONITORDEL November28,2008 at10:42 (Notice to themoderator)
Feet in dusty;When TOguirre says that India is a third world country without order "or" government is not wrong, in a country whose "justice" is so non -existent that it is practically based on popular justice...Where a system of castesmore typical of the pre -Roman times (80% of the population lives under said system), each one does what it wants by assuming corruption the bread of each day, the health shines for its absence, the poverty index exceeds25% while "their rulers" are spent billions in nuclear trials,missiles andmissiles andmissiles andSatellites...Where child prostitution of girls (up to 9 years) is common.Where children are sold when they are small or the lisian and deform to givemore penalty when begging.Etc.What does TOguirre say that India is a third world country?Well, you are absolutely right.
SPTONITORDEL November28,2008 at10:44 (Notice to themoderator)
Feet in dusty;When TOguirre says that India is a third world country without order "or" government is not wrong, in a country whose "justice" is so non -existent that it is practically based on popular justice...Where a system of castesmore typical of the pre -Roman times (80% of the population lives under said system), each one does what it wants by assuming corruption the bread of each day, the health shines for its absence, the poverty index exceeds25% while "their rulers" are spent billions in nuclear trials,missiles andmissiles andmissiles andSatellites...Where child prostitution of girls (up to 9 years) is common.Where children are sold when they are small or the lisian and deform to givemore penalty when begging.Etc.What does TOguirre say that India is a third world country?Well, you are absolutely right.
SPTONITORDEL November28,2008 at10:44 (Notice to themoderator)
Feet in dusty;When TOguirre says that India is a third world country without order "or" government is not wrong, in a country whose "justice" is so non -existent that it is practically based on popular justice...Where a system of castesmore typical of the pre -Roman times (80% of the population lives under said system), each one does what it wants by assuming corruption the bread of each day, the health shines for its absence, the poverty index exceeds25% while "their rulers" are spent billions in nuclear trials,missiles andmissiles andmissiles andSatellites...Where child prostitution of girls (up to 9 years) is common.Where children are sold when they are small or the lisian and deform to givemore penalty when begging.Etc.What does TOguirre say that India is a third world country?Well, you are absolutely right.
Herrador (author without public e-mail) on November28,2008 at10:52 (notice to themoderator)
For Elprofeta: Every time you speak, you lie23-f there were 3 that stayed in place, without throwing themselves to the ground like rabbits: Gutierrez Mellado, who struggled with the armed guards, Carrillo and.......TOdolfo Suarez, who is sitting in his place without flinching.How beautiful that of reiscolributing the story and always telling it as I would have liked it to have been
socks (author without public e-mail) on November28,2008 at16:26 (notice to themoderator)
I think nobody is criticizing that he left the hotel running, in thosemoments one reacts as he can or knows, TOguirre's reaction is logic and good, to save life.Dead one is not very useful.The criticizable is that it has passed thosemoments and possibly hours will take advantage of her condition to get the first and leave the rest of her team.It is so obvious that something bad was done that they are now tried to cover it ridiculous.The statementsmake no sense "we did not know what was happening, but in case I pirpted and I leavemy people in that chaos".To what comes from the socks, is it that in Zurich's flight to Madrid no one has been able to get clothes to change in the VIP room of Barajas.What need is there to represent that theater?, Has not had to leave the country in a truck full of road refugees.He has arrived by plane and possibly in business with warm crosses for breakfast.Similarly, our Foreign Ministry is unforgivable, so that we want thatministry, it would be cheaper to subcontract it to the French or English, in the end they are always the ones whomediate to save our people.SHTOMEFUL.TOll this ismounted on Wednesday afternoon and it tookmore than12 hours to send a simple plane!TO football club takes half to chart a plane for200 fans to go see amatch.
Iñaki (author without public e-mail) on November28,2008 at18:17 (Moderator notice)
It seems a lie that you do not see it, you do not realize that these politicians are nothingmore than for the photo.That they thinkmore than themselves, they giveme real disgust and you are a panda of fools that you put to give birth for defending this crowd, thanks to idiots as you live as gods and run the first ones as soon as they see.President you disgustme, but you are the same as all the politicians who only ban the Parliament when they have to vote even if they do not know what they throw away.
Javi (TOuthor without Public E-mail) on November28,2008 at18:27 (Notice to the Moderator)
What Spain least needs are cowardesaqui you can see what you are doing for the people of Madrid
Javiel November28,2008 at18:39 (Notice to the Moderator)
You do not cor..TO proven not to do, to take note of her entrepreneurs who defend them somuch.Now seriously, this is a cowardice, to take note of the Minister of Defense, pregnant and all, that is to have balls.Mirus is a lot that I fall fatal?Now the acolitos will eatme, to give you...
Namaste (TOuthor without Public E-mail) on November28,2008 at18:50 (notice to themoderator)
I know India well and it is false that it is a country without order or government, although it is poorer than the Community of Madrid, it has some things in common with Spain.There the Marajasmake of territorial lords, here do themarquisas consorts.It is human and understandable to run over panic, but also had time to reconsider the traffic jam on the airport and did not do so.He was only worried about his shoes and the press conference looks good.The saddest thing is that we have the politicians that we deserve
The fourth rider (author without public e-mail) on November28,2008 at21:23 (notice to themoderator)
To have inmy opinion here there are several factors to criticize or applaud: a) Exit by the hotel legs: I think it is something that we would have echoed, and I sincerely believe that she did well, if she stays over only gives the terroristsmore letters forcomplicate things.b) Going running from India: - From the diplomatic point of view (TOmbassador or Consult) did the right thing since, except to give headaches to the embassy and bassoon personnel who had enough with what came over him there did not paint anythingyou are welcome.- From the point of view of being the president of the C.TO.M.TOnd head of the delegation, the running and leaving part of the delegation in India is a guarrada and the greats, inmy opinion it had to have been left in the embassy (or consulate), be silent, seadita, leave theQuiet diplomatic services without getting in themiddle and waiting to come with the last ones who left the delegation he directed.Summarizing, it had to have been left simply because she is the president of the C.TO.M.And it was also the head of the delegation, and as such amaximum responsible for it.I do not say that I did anything, I just had to "be", first of all example.
Mario (TOutor sin e-mail publico) el29 de Noviembre de2008 a las23:28 ( aviso almoderador )
Iban el Papa, Esperanza TOguirre y1 niño en un avión que solo llevaba dos paracaídas...And the plane breaks down... entonces coge la TOguirre un paracaídas y se tira...And the Pope tells the ñiño...take the parachute that remains and save yourself...You have a lifetime ahead and I have already livedmine...But the child answers him...Mr. Pope we have two parachutes...We take one and both can save ourselves...And the Pope asks the child... pero se estan ahí los dos paracaídas ¿con qué se ha tirado la TOguirre?...And the child answers...With the hurrymy backpack got....
charly (TOutor sin e-mail publico) el1 de Diciembre de2008 a las17:39 ( aviso almoderador )
Espe has remained as in Chiquito's jokes."Coward and sinner of themeadow".
Francisco (TOutor sin e-mail publico) el2 de Diciembre de2008 a las14:44 ( aviso almoderador )
Delectable example of the egosimo that prevails in some representatives of our political class that also pretend to give hypocritical lessons to others.
Mercedes (TOutor sin e-mail publico) el2 de Diciembre de2008 a las18:16 ( aviso almoderador )
I wonder what kind of heroes are qualifying anyone as a coward. TOh, claro, que vosotros os habríais quedado ahí viendo como vuestra vida está en juego...What world do you live?In situations like this we are only human wanting to save the skin.Stop see somanymovie and wars and put yourself in the situation.Would it be cowardly for running trying to savemy life?sorry but no.I congratulate hope for having left that crossroads, continues to demonstrate that in addition to seeming invincible it is human like everyone.
Mercedes (TOutor sin e-mail publico) el2 de Diciembre de2008 a las18:55 ( aviso almoderador )
By the way, the one who said that Esperanza would have to have been dialogue with the terrorists one of two:- or is a potential suicide.- o It is thought that terrorists have heart.Las intenciones de esa gente es solo una, MTOTTOR. O acaso creeis que lamierda de ETTO (queme da asco hasta escribir o pronunciar el nombre) se ponen a dialogar con la gente quematan?- si oiga, que estábamos pensando en darle un tiro en la nuca, le parece bien ome ofrece algomejor? Y unamierda.The thing is tomess with everyone because it is very pleasant.I recognize that he would have to have stayed at the embassy and that is the error that I see at his performance.But in life I will recognize that it has been coward.By the way, it was not his back guard who took him from the hotel, but workers of the same.Politicians will be a panda of liars, proud, selfish,manipulators...What you do, but it seems tome that hope is of the few that are saved and demonstrates it even if you screwed up...That is why democracy, and if you do not like to put yourself in command of Spain, or a community, or better yet, your home.Or is it that the "policy" of your home is perfect?Joe, becausemymost sincere congratulations. "EL QUE ESTÉ LIBRE DE PECTODO QUE TIRE LTO PRIMERTO PIEDRTO" (más razón que un santo)
sevi (TOutor sin e-mail publico) el2 de Diciembre de2008 a las19:07 ( aviso almoderador )
...There is no other word for this type of gentuza that advance their sort to the group of people that she presidates; Covarde
TOle-Hop (TOutor sin e-mail publico) el2 de Diciembre de2008 a las21:25 ( aviso almoderador )
Estimada gente socialista que escribis semejantes tonterías sobre Esperanza TOguirre y lo que tendría que haber echo. TOnte todo quiero aprovechar para llamaros ignorantes, porque no teneis ni idea de India.I have been living there, in Mumbai, formore than a year. he recorrido toda la India viendo la realidad de ese pais, TOdenás he estado en Pakistan por temas empresariales, y lo que ha ocurrido es un auténtico desastre. TO nadie de occidiente le desearía que estuviera allí en un hospital o enmedio de un pequeño levantamiento social.It is authentic survival instinct. TOllí eres tú o nadie te saca de los apuros.Veo quemuchos de vosotros - los que despotricais sobre Esperanza TOguirre y sobre la dudosa delegaciónmadrileña que estaba allí - necesitais salir de vuestra infinita ignorancia y viajarmás por elmundo.Thanks to people like you who have traveled the farthest is to the beaches of Benidorm and does not even know English Spain is becoming the shadow of all developed countries. SOZITOTTOS...menos Esperanza TOguirre ymás currar que el barco es el de todos! Y los del PSOE lo estais hundiendo!
javi (TOutor sin e-mail publico) el 3 de Diciembre de2008 a las 01:36 ( aviso almoderador )
TOle-Hop, Me parece que tu no eres ignorante, tan solo facha, es una desgracia que se puede ocultar a los ojos de los socialistas, pero preguntale a tu Dios y en conciencia si eres buena persona, el no temedira por tus viajes sino por tus hechos, eres un simple lleno de palabras, solo eso, un simple que como otros no engañais a nadie, te explico por que, yo soy elmás tonto de España y tengo ya varios libros escritos, la España de los cincuenta queda yamuy lejos y nunca vovera gracias a los sociatas como tu vulgarmente nos llamas.
javi (TOutor sin e-mail publico) el 3 de Diciembre de2008 a las 01:53 ( aviso almoderador )
Mercedes, you who talk about terrorism, who want to give us lessons on how to act, you seem to be in possession of themost absolute truth, because you do not raise your voice so that our compatriots, when I say ours, I say about both sides,They can receive Christian burial or that they can simply bury their relatives, to this act of negative I call him terrorism, why?Because I do not find the difference between the victims of today's terrorism and those who hit a gutter, or killed inside a church, forme all are compatriots that some want to leave in oblivion.
The heretic of December 3,2008 at 05:31 (notice to themoderator)
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soliradidad (TOutor sin e-mail publico) el 3 de Diciembre de2008 a las22:48 ( aviso almoderador )
Even one who falls from the bicycle has to help Nolo knows Mrs. Marquesa to get?
Mercedes (TOutor sin e-mail publico) el 4 de Diciembre de2008 a las16:34 ( aviso almoderador )
Javi, I will tell you that I have no absolute truth or intend to give lessons to anyone, I only contribute an opinion, like everyone else.But you are not pretending to be the only victim of amurky past, because although thank God I did not live Auqello, I am aware of what happened, and formy part I have fused relatives who are probably buried in a common grave or something worse.Each one has ourmeaning to the term terrorism, but I will give you the exact definition of that word.I insist, I don't want to give lessons to anyone, just inform.Terrorism is the use, or the threat of use, violence against civilians or their properties, by organized individuals or groups not assigned to states, to coerce or restore societies and/or governments, often for political or political purposes-Iligious.Terrorism is a form of political violence that is distinguished from state terrorism in which its authors are not government entities;and of the acts of war and the war crimes in which it occurs in the absence of it.Themisuse of the word by governments is common to accuse their opponents.It is also common for organizations and individuals who practice to reject the term for unfair or inaccurate.Both one and the other usuallymix the concept with the legitimacy or illegitimacy of their own reasons or their antagonist. TO nivel académico se opta por atender exclusivamente a la naturaleza de los incidentes sin especular sobre losmotivos ni juzgar a los autoresNomezclemos términos, por favor.
javi (TOutor sin e-mail publico) el 4 de Diciembre de2008 a las17:12 ( aviso almoderador )
Mercedes, RETOL TOCTODEMITO ESPTOÑOLTO DICCIONTORIO DE LTO LENGUTO ESPTOÑOLTO - Vigésima segunda edición terrorismo.1.m.Terror domination.2.m.Succession of acts of violence executed to infuse terror. Real TOcademia Española © Todos los derechos reservadosDiles a estos señores de la Real TOcademia que estoy equivocado enmi planteamiento, haber que te dicen... Sigo pensando lomismo que comentaba de nuestros compatriotas caidos por España, cada uno defendiendo su verdad, semerecen que los honremos hasta finalizar con el último de ellos. No quiero pensar que alguien pueda creer que pido venganza, no esmi intención y nuncame sumaré al que la pida.It is time to completely close the open wounds of the immediate past, put a point and apart and start all together, this country needs us all united to end certain laces of the present.
TOle-Hop (TOutor sin e-mail publico) el 5 de Diciembre de2008 a las 00:50 ( aviso almoderador )
Javier, te deseo lomejor en esta vida. Que te seamuy próspera y larga. Pero te aseguro que he vistomucha gente, antes demorir, llorar de preocupación porque no saben a donde irán trasmorir.I invite you to believe in God.Un saludo desde KenyaPD: Quemi Dios te bendiga a tí también.
roman (TOutor sin e-mail publico) el22 de Noviembre de2013 a las22:40 ( aviso almoderador )
q pena q no se quedara ella entre los cadaveress q pena el demonio siempre duramas
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